there were nine of us, but then it divided us. all of a sudden, are you looking at each other, this your enemy, this not? literally, we are the same people. i think it's like the oil it's -- it's a blessing, but also it's a curse. and i'm not into politics, but i think in order to do anything, there needs to be peace and going back for the one-year anniversary of the independence, i never thought that would come growing up in the civil war. you know, running with thousands of people towards the bush looking for refuge. it was really, really profound. going back, i realize i was like the only way we coreally conquer this as a nation, i mean, the u.s. took 200 or so to have independence in a really profound way and have become a part of that. but i think just for one year, how much sudan, south sudan has gone so far, how much it's evolved. >> right. there's been a bit of a conversation on one hand. one year of independence, you talk about -- i've read a bit about your own personal very harrowing story of escape in the context of civ